General Full-team Review Minutes

Meeting started by danshearer_ at 2022-02-18 12:04:45+0000 (full logs).

Meeting Summary

1. Prologue (danshearer_, 12:04:45)
   1. MEETING_NAME: General Full-team Review (danshearer_, 12:04:58)
   2. ATTENDEE: Dan Shearer (danshearer_, 12:05:05)
   3. ATTENDEE: Ruben (rubdos[m], 12:05:10)
   4. ATTENDEE: Claudio (Labhraich, 12:05:16)
   5. ATTENDEE: Björn (BKJ621, 12:05:24)
   6. ATTENDEE: Gabby (gabby_bch, 12:05:32)
2. Reviewing from last meeting (danshearer_, 12:05:32)
   1. INFO: Gabby has got lots of benchmarks, so that's done, and we can more-or-less keep them coming (danshearer_, 12:07:40)
   2. INFO: Ruben did a great job, there is a working cluster, we have a little refining perhaps to do but basically it is there to make it sweat for us. (danshearer_, 12:07:49)
   3. INFO: Ruben carries over the action of committing BibLaTeX (danshearer_, 12:08:20)
   4. INFO: Björn sent out a reminder and here we are, so it worked. (danshearer_, 12:08:54)
3. Benchmarking (danshearer_, 12:10:31)
   1. INFO: Claudio anchored a really busy round of testing, bugfixing and improvements (danshearer_, 12:11:18)
   2. INFO: Benchmarking is now partly-concurrent (ie can be used on a shared cluster) as well as much more user-friendly (danshearer_, 12:11:54)
   3. INFO: There are now three people in the world who have run a benchmark and shared the results (Claudio, me and Ruben). (danshearer_, 12:12:28)
   4. INFO: Benchmarking is now portable to more operating systems (NetBSD and FreeBSD), and does a lot more autodetection (danshearer_, 12:13:12)
   5. INFO: Dan has drafted a summary of our first results, intended for sharing with the small group of people with commit access to SQLite, LMDB or Fossil. (danshearer_, 12:14:28)
   6. INFO: Benchmarking now automatically includes CPU info, and has a good try at including disk info. This is a work in progress, but extremely helpful in interpreting results. (danshearer_, 12:15:37)
   7. INFO: One thing we are aware of but have not started to solve is that it would be very useful to have a reasonably reliable Machine ID. There are many problems and opportunities with this idea. (danshearer_, 12:16:17)
   8. INFO: Claudio has created the start of a tool and a procedure to combine results from people. It works for trusted people driving it manually. (danshearer_, 12:17:23)
   9. ACTION: Gabby to commit R code and some sample results (danshearer_, 12:18:20)
   10. INFO: Dan wanted to make the point that the benchmarking that has been built is already at the top of its class. You cannot get anything comparable for other storage software, certainly not in a collaborative tool like this. Very well done. (danshearer_, 12:25:43)
   11. ACTION: Dan to send out benchmarking document v0.5 (or v0.6 if there is feedback from the team today). (danshearer_, 12:26:42)
   12. ACTION: Dan to submit jobs to the VUB cluster and amalgamate the results (danshearer_, 12:29:00)
4. Physical meeting (danshearer_, 12:30:32)
   1. INFO: Ruben has offered car transport within Belgium eg Charleroi (danshearer_, 12:33:06)
   2. HELP: Dan needs a hand to locate accommodation in Brussels (danshearer_, 12:36:27)
   3. ACTION: Ruben to ask internally at VUB for places to stay (rubdos[m], 12:42:41)
   4. INFO: Accommodation not on the West of Brussels and transport is good (danshearer_, 12:46:22)
   5. ACTION: Björn too look up AirBNB in Brussels, checking with Ruben, and looking for any week in March if dates are difficult (danshearer_, 12:47:31)
   6. INFO: parking a car is difficult/expensive in Brussels, but allegedly not a problem further out (danshearer_, 12:49:46)
   7. INFO: Ruben knows the free spots for parking a small vehicle (danshearer_, 12:50:30)
   8. ACCEPTED: We meet in march when accommodation is possible and Björn/etc will tell us that (danshearer_, 12:53:58)
   9. MOTION: I propose we say the minimum number of days to meet in Brussels is two, with no maximum (danshearer_, 12:54:44)
   10. VOTE: +1 (Labhraich, 12:55:19)
   11. VOTE: +1 (danshearer_, 12:55:23)
   12. VOTE: +1 (danshearer_, 12:55:28)
   13. VOTE: +1 (rubdos[m], 12:55:32)
   14. VOTE: +1 (BKJ621, 12:55:49)
   15. VOTE: +1 (gabby_bch, 12:55:51)
   16. ACCEPTED: Motion accepted: 6 in favor to 0 opposed (danshearer_, 12:55:56)
   17. ACCEPTED: We meet for a minimum of two days in Brussels, with no upper limit. (danshearer_, 12:59:34)
   18. ACTION: Dan to coordinate marketing activities with NLnet, VUB and others once a date is agreed (danshearer_, 13:01:12)
   19. INFO: Dan proposes 1 hour public presentation on LumoSQL super technical and good for VUB staff, and 1 hour for security people and so on "what this stuff means for society" (danshearer_, 13:03:45)
5. Reminder to ourselves about jobs in progress (danshearer_, 13:03:59)
   1. INFO: Ruben is doing academic reading and noting papers, with BibLaTex commits to LumoSQL tree (danshearer_, 13:04:27)
   2. INFO: Gabby continues on graphs and also a docs task active (danshearer_, 13:04:44)
   3. INFO: Claudio is back on metadata, which is a requirement for hidden columns, encryption etc (danshearer_, 13:05:09)
   4. INFO: Dan is on Lumions/reading too; coordinating feedback with other project authors, looking at marketing for March Meeting and other things. (danshearer_, 13:05:55)
   5. INFO: Björn needs to talk to Dan about NLnet claims (danshearer_, 13:06:12)
   6. ACTION: Dan to circulate notes on marketing audiences (danshearer_, 13:08:26)
   7. ACTION: Dan and Björn to discuss funding (danshearer_, 13:08:56)

Meeting ended at 2022-02-18 13:09:27+0000 (full logs).

Attendees

1. BKJ621 (aka Björn) - 18 lines
2. Labhraich (aka Claudio) - 30 lines
3. danshearer_ (aka Dan Shearer) - 129 lines
4. gabby_bch (aka Gabby) - 5 lines
5. lumosql-meetbot - 12 lines
6. rubdos[m] (aka Ruben) - 49 lines

Action Items

1. Gabby to commit R code and some sample results
2. Dan to send out benchmarking document v0.5 (or v0.6 if there is feedback from the team today).
3. Dan to submit jobs to the VUB cluster and amalgamate the results
4. Ruben to ask internally at VUB for places to stay
5. Björn too look up AirBNB in Brussels, checking with Ruben, and looking for any week in March if dates are difficult
6. Dan to coordinate marketing activities with NLnet, VUB and others once a date is agreed
7. Dan to circulate notes on marketing audiences
8. Dan and Björn to discuss funding

Action Items by Attendee

(Note: the following list of Action Items has been partly manually edited, because the Chair forgot to use irc nicks instead of human names after #action commands. Updated the LumoSQL Meeting Handbook so we remember for next time)

• BKJ621
  1. Björn too look up AirBNB in Brussels, checking with Ruben, and looking for any week in March if dates are difficult
  2. Dan and Björn to discuss funding
• gabby_bch
  1. Gabby to commit R code and some sample results
• rubdos[m]
  1. Ruben to ask internally at VUB for places to stay
  2. Björn too look up AirBNB in Brussels, checking with Ruben, and looking for any week in March if dates are difficult
• danshearer_
  1. Dan to send out benchmarking document v0.5 (or v0.6 if there is feedback from the team today).
  2. Dan to submit jobs to the VUB cluster and amalgamate the results
  3. Dan to coordinate marketing activities with NLnet, VUB and others once a date is agreed
  4. Dan to circulate notes on marketing audiences
  5. Dan and Björn to discuss funding

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